In this week’s episode, Josh is talking to Ben Waterworth who was Finalist in the 2010 Tasmanian Young Achiever Awards.
Born and raised in Hobart, where I lived for the first 31 years of my life. In college (grade 11) I got into radio after starting my journalism studies and was offered a radio show on the spot after my first shift as part of our class schedule. That role grew, was at Edge Radio in Hobart for 11 years. Through that I interviewed numerous prominent people from Prince Charles to Prime Minister Julia Gillard, from Willem Dafoe to the lead singer of Eifel 65 and Kevin Bacon. Outside of interviews we started up a joke bid in 2005 for a ‘Hobart 2016’ Olympic Bid, which we eventually changed to ‘Hobart 2020’. It was a constant segment that we would get ‘support’ from our guests including the Premier of Tasmania (a few of them even), prominent Olympians (Steven Bradbury, Jane Saville) and other big names. It eventually took off to the point where we were getting flown to Melbourne to sit with major companies wanting to sponsor us, being touted by global bidding agencies and having fans around the world show support from buying merchandise (pins & t-shirts) and taking photos of them with the logo in front of global landmarks. We were talked about on national TV & radio and were even talked about by John Coates at an AOC meeting (we heard at least this happened). It was a lot of fun, went a bit too far and somehow I was a finalist as Australian of the Year in Tasmania and got nominated for the Tasmanian Young Achievers for it. So, yeah. Some fun! But it was great to promote little ol’ Tassie and Hobart on a global scale with the attention we got from a little radio joke. Which confirms as I mentioned that I’ll be the least inspirational person you’ll ever have on!
As for more about me, well, there’s other random stuff along the way which has now seen me move here to Victoria in BC in Canada. You can check out my website (benwaterworth.com) if you want to read some other random stuff and see my other work, or just Google me to no doubt find some random stuff which will mainly be probably hate threads against me from the Survivor community from my days as a leading Survivor podcast host. Either that or you’ll confuse me with the more famous Ben Waterworth sports broadcaster, somebody who I often get hate mail for. It’s all a fun time!
In this episode:
- How a joke about Hobart hosting the Olympics led to Ben becoming famous and put the spotlight on Tasmania to the world!
- Hear about Ben’s love for the Winter Olympics. He even has an Olympics podcast called “Off the Podium” which is available on all Podcast Apps
- Ben is the Host of multiple podcasts – The Oz Network, The Brink, Australian Survivor Archives, Double Oz Seven, Off The Podium & EurOzvision
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Transcript
Annette
Welcome to the inspirational Australian’s podcast, where we chat to people making a difference in their communities and in the lives of others and here’s your host for today, Josh Griffin
Josh
Thank you, Annette and once again, we’re recording in lockdown, so it’s nice to see your face. Even reduced to a zoomed rather than being in the office together. But it’s, it’s great that we can keep doing these podcasts to put out some really positive stories and to share the stories of people who are doing great things and inspirational Australians. And that’s what it’s all about, just keeping the positivity going because there’s a lot to be negative about right now.
Annette
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. But as you say, just let’s be positive. Let’s have fun. Got a great guest on today. So, I know we’re going to love it and yeah, let’s get going Josh.
Josh
Speaking of positive, how about some positive reviews for anyone listening. If you haven’t had a chance to review the podcast yet, please, we’d really appreciate it. If you could jump on whether it’s an Apple podcast, Android, Spotify, jump in, give a review. And if you are using Apple podcast, Annette as put is super easy to follow, guide on how to do it, because I’ve heard that a bit, actually people saying we don’t really know how to review, it’s really easy to jump onto awards australia.com/podcast and there’s a handy link that will tell you how to do it.
So on to today’s guest, we’re speaking to someone in Tassie who was not long in Canada, so I’ll ask him about that, his journeys and his travels. But for this week’s dose of inspiration, we’re speaking to Ben Waterworth, who was a finalist in the Tasmanian Young Achiever Awards back in 2010. So, it’s great to have someone on who it’s 10 years ago now and 11 years since Ben have been involved. So it’s great to find out what he’s doing with himself. Ben is a guy who has a lot of podcasts. I think at one point he had six podcasts that he was hosting, producing, editing. So, Annette and I are in awe of this guy and his skills in the podcast game. But Ben has been in radio, he’s been in media, he’s done a lot of stuff. So, you know, I could read through his bio, we’re going to put it in the show notes, so check it out. But let’s just recap that bio from Ben directly. Ben, welcome. Good morning. How are you doing?
Ben
Good, Josh, thank you very much for having me. It’s, it’s a pleasure to chat. I think I joked to a long time ago when we first discussed about me coming on, that I’m probably the least inspirational guest you’ll ever have on the show reading through sort of all the great stories and all the amazing inspirational guest you have on the show so hopefully I can live up to some sort of level of whatyou’re saying there about me, but yeah, it’s a pleasure, a pleasure to be with you on the show today.
Josh
Now you’re a humble, humble guy, and that’s part of your appeal Ben, I think. So, can you tell us a little bit about, you know, and this is more a selfish question for me. What’s it like growing up in Tassi. Because I grew up in Adelaide, which is not exactly a big place, but you know, you get this idea. The stereotypical view of Tassie is small, but when you go there, it’s actually, you know, there’s a lot going on in Tassie.
Ben
Yeah. It’s, it’s an interesting question because, you know, I can imagine you’d have a similar thing in Adelaide sort of when you’re in a place that is not Melbourne, Sydney, Brisbane. You know, you kind of have this view that you’re missing out and your kind of in a very, you know, small place and kind of like you’re in the last place in the world you want to be. So, I mean, I’ll be completely honest with you growing up, I wanted nothing more to leave, you know, I didn’t like the place I kind of thought it was terrible and there was a whole world out there. But I think kind of in hindsight, having lived nowa few places outside of Tassie and overseas, you kind of grow a bit of perspective. So, I mean it’s, it’s a, it’s a beautiful place it’s, it’s very safe, it’s very homely, like, I mean, it’s the joke is you always know everyone here, you bump into someone and if you go out to the shops, things like that. You know, the weather is something that I actually like, I enjoy cold and seasonal weather and it’s, I mean, it’s a place that has changed a lot like it’s, it’s different now to, you know, 10, 20 years ago when I was growing up, there’s been a lot of changes here, particularly over the last ten years, which has really put Hobart in Tassie on the map which, you know now I meet a lot of people from the mainland who are saying like, oh yeah, I did two weeks er, a month or so ago. I loved it or I’m coming there like ten years ago, you’d never hear people who were just going to Hobart for, for a visit. You know, it wasn’t a place I would go to. So, I’m very proud of, of where I’m from, where I grew up with, you know, everything along those lines and it was always a source of pride that when I was overseas and they would ask me where I was from Australia. Oh you know, oh Sydney. No, no Hobart Oh okay. Tell me more so. Yeah, it was unique, but you know, it definitely I’m sure everybody who lives in a place like Hobart can kind of always have those sorts of fun stories to tell about growing up in a city of this size.
Josh
For sure, I believe I can identify with some of the things you’re saying there like in Adelaide one time I went with some friend, some Melbourne friends and I kind of I was our unofficial tour guide showing them around. And the stereotype became reality. We walk in the Rundle mall and I ran into someone, I knew we went to the basketball game and I ran into someone, two people actually. I knew at the end it was just like, I didn’t expect it, but they were like, Oh Adelaide is so small, you know everyone, but I think it was a fluke, anyway.
Ben
You know, it’s weird here when you’ve been away for about four or so years and withina week when you go into the city, you’re all of a sudden seeing people that you know, well, I haven’t been here for ages and they are still here.
Josh
Yeah. So funny, so can you tell us about, as you were kind of growing up a bit and getting into your career, how did you get into radio and media?
Ben
It’s sort of an interesting story because sort of when I was younger, I think I kind of got the idea of going into a little bit big sports fan. You know, I sadly didn’t have the talent to go to pursue any of my sporting dreams. You know, standard kid played all the sports under the sun and hoped to make a career out of it, but nothing ever stuck. So, I kind of having watched so many sports, everything is kind of like, oh, well, you know, maybe I’ll become a sports commentator. So, it sort of bit me quite early that bug of wanting to going to broadcasting. So, I guess kind of going through school, it was kind of something that I was thinking like, this is what I want to do. And in Tassie we have a bit of a weird sort of school system. It’s sort of changing a little bit now. But sort of when I was in school, you would do high school from year seven to ten. And then you would do what’s called college, which was year 11 and 12 before going to uni. So, when I got to year 11, it was, it was college, it was, you know, I went to an all-boys high school, so it’s like hey girls, great, everything gets year 11, so, it was a whole other world. And I did my first ever journalism class, and as part of that journalism class, we had a weekly designated slot on a local community radio station here called Edge Radio in Hobart. And we would get into sort of a group of three. And then you would have a three-week stint in that group and you would each alternate in terms of taking a hosting gig and then you would sort of swap around. So, when it came to my turnwith two other co-hosts, you had an absolute blast like absolutely loved it. And that point I’d sort of, I really thought maybe of like TV and kind of that sort of stuff. So, anyway, to get our first show and I sort of get called up upstairs afterwards, like I think our teacher would take us in and then he would sort of take you back and then he goes Ben, the manager wants to speak to one of adults normally nota good thing. No, no, not at all. But it was, it was actually a good thing. He likes how I sounded, he liked my style and everything. This is like my first ever time being on a radio show and kind of offered me if I wanted to do more so kind of from there it was sort of some sporadic gigs here and there. And then basically over time, I just kind of stuck with Edge Radio. That was 2004, I basically had a show up there in some capacity right through till 2017 with a break here and there slightly but yeah, I was sort of it kind of fell into that really from that. And from that that is giving me the podcast I do now all the opportunities I went on to university got my journalismdegree. I worked in newspapers, magazines, other radio stations here and there. So yeah, that’s kind of how it all happened. It was sort of an accidental thing for radio, but at the end of the day it’s worked out well because I have a face for radio, not TV. So I think it kind of, it was, it was where I should have gone really and not really focused on the, on the TV, the reason why I’ve never been a TV reporter or a host.
Josh
So yeah, I think you gota great face, but it is true. You’ve got a great voice as well. Now you’re talking about this, you’ve alluded this to me in the past. You did say earlier that, you know, we’ve had some emails back and forth for a few months now and you have alluded to and I’m aware of, of, of a little bit of what we’re about to ask you. But I don’t know the full story and I’m excited to hear it. So when you are at Edge Radio, there was a bit of a joke going on that you seem to be pioneering and kind of behind of about bringing the Olympics to Hobart is that right? Am I on the right track, and can you tell us a bit more?
Ben
Very right track. Yes, that was. I mean, you mentioned in the intro sort of, you know, being nominated for four Tasmanian Young Achievers Awards. I mean, at all, it’s crazy to think back on how everything like that came about. We are sort of in the interest of the main show that sort of did on Edge Radio was a show called The Brink. You know, we had done sort of the school-based ones for a while and then we kind of spun it off into this one and, you know, gradually it was a, I think like a Friday afternoon show thana Monday afternoon show. Then when we sort of became the daily breakfast show, and through all of that, I think it was around 2006, I want to say, we just came up with the idea for some reason of hey, let’s jokingly make Hobart bid for the Olympics. And at that point, it was 2016 and it was just, it started off as one joke segment, and then it kind of turned into a, hey, let’s make a logo and hey, let’s do a silly video. And I think, I think a lot of the inspiration of it came from it because as a massive Olympics fan, you know, and I think most people of a certain age will remember back during Sydney, Salt Lake and Athens, of course, bringing their own take on the Olympics during the Salt Lake Winter Olympics, I did the whole smidgens hols bid for a winter Olympics and it turned into a big joke. So we kind of took that and like OK. And it was just kind of a segment we would do for a few years, we started to branch out and rather than just talk to ourselves, we started to hey, let’s get some guests on and we start getting some decent guests on. And then we’d play the joke with them and when we started to get some Olympians on, we’re like, hey, like, ha, ha, do you support the Olympic bid, then the premier would come on? How hard do you support the Olympic bid? You know, little things like that and then I don’t even know how it happened. It went from sort of this joke to all of a sudden, we were taking ita bit more seriously. We actually started forminga mini committee and then it was kind of a case of OK, this is happening. So let’s take some people. This happened. And then all of a sudden, we were being interviewed by national media. We were being interviewed by international media. We were being invited to be flown out to internationalsporting event, organising sort of conferences, which really is yeah, we were being flown to Melbourne to speak to sponsors. It took off like out of nowhere and it in all honesty like Hobart could never host an Olympic, you know, not even remotely close to hosting an Olympics.
So, like it was always something where I think it just, I got too caught up in the moment and it was like, because I mean at the end of the day it was fun. It was fun. It was a bit silly. We got ripped shreds into by the media because they say it never hosts an Olympics. What are you talking about? But I think at the end of the day what, what came from it? And I think this is what led to sort of me getting ridiculously nominated like. This is what I’ve said on the least inspirational person. You’ve got people outhere who are doing amazing things out there and I’m getting nominated for a joke bid for the Olympics. But we were getting attention out there for the Hobart and, you know, go back to your question about growing up here and feeling like you’re in the smallest place in the world. I mean, it is a thing that Hobart does get to not just Hobart Tasmania, I mean its a, it’s a game. You watch a movie or TV show and there’s a map of the world and you’re like, oh, let me guess. Tasmania is not on the map. And yeah, and it’s not even just a movie thing like constantly, mainland organizations are leaving Tasmania off the map and literally so it was getting exposure out there on weed levels. You know, we were featured on some prominent Olympic bid websites that have been around for years. You know, we produced that we had people contacting us just around the world, wanting to help out like I want to be a volunteer like thinking this is legitimately going to happen. We got pins made up and Olympic pins, a huge trading and, and collector’s items, and I think they were American companies going to contact us like yeah, we’ll get you some pins didn’t have to pass it. They made us send it to us and I’ve seen them being sold on eBay for like over one hundred dollars because people don’t think like, oh, this is great. You know, this is the amazing thing. That’s a Collector’s item. Now, memorabilia. Yeah. A little random things like that, we had, you know, people around the world just taking photos of the, like we got people like stand in front of a world landmark with the Hobart logo and they did it. Yeah, it was, it was a whirlwind. This is probably only the space of like 12 to 18 months and it took really seriously. I mean, again, as I said, it seems like a whirlwind.
I mean, I got contacted last year by a reporter down here to basically doa retrospective. Do a story on it because obviously with Tokyo being canceled, they’re like, hey, well, the Olympics meant to be on right now. So I hope I can swoop in. Yeah. So that was kind of the thing and it was interesting because so much has happened in my life since day, like I remember when that was happening. That was, it took over, it was kind of my life. I get very conservative things when I do them. So now when it kind of gets brought up, I’m like, oh yeah, I did that. So yeah, it was, it was crazy. It really, really was crazy to think back on how that went from just a silly little segment one day to. Yeah, I believe I was told that John Coates, who, of course is still the president of the IOC, vice president of the IOC. I was heard. I was told that at a I was like a national, the yearly, the annual sort of Olympic meeting with all the state sort of Olympic areas. Basically, he mentioned it in a speech or he approached the Tasmanian Olympic committee and sort of talked to them about it like I get, I can’t back that up. I was just told but I mean that’s pretty cool if that is it, John Coates, the IOC vice president, now was even talking about it.
Josh
So yeah, well you know, you’re being very self-deprecating and saying here the least inspirational person we’ve had on the podcast that, you know, it’s so interesting because we do interview so many people from completely different walks of life and just doing completely different things. And what I’ve found is that sometimes the inspirational thing that someone has done that person just does not believe like you in some respects, that that was intentional. But it could be something that’s overa long time. It could be an ongoing activity, or it could be a moment in time, which is kind of what yours was. It was a moment in time. But it actually captured the minds of quite a few people from the sounds of it and brought, as you said, some incredible attention to Hobart, international attention. So, to me, that’s pretty cool. It’s pretty worth recognizing and applauding, I reckon.
Ben
Well, I mean, thank you very much. It’s, it’s kind of, I’ve always been that type of person that’s hard, I always find it hard to take any sort of compliments and things like that. So, it’s kind of the go to, but yeah, I mean, it is, as I said like Hobart is kind of a place which kind of, particularly that time again, a lot has changed since then. But it was nice to kind of shine a bit of a spotlight here and there, you know, it was kind of a case of you get note that, you know, somebody was talking about our wide world of sports. You know, somebody sending a link that they were doing some sort of segment you had like Ken Sutcliffe sitting there. I think it was like Melinda Gates with Taylor all these kinds of big names and sort of talking about it. And it just, it leads into a joke and then there was an MP down here who actually brought it up in parliament and said the Hobart, everybody’s always in here in Tasmania. It’s crazy. And then just watching the footage of it though, like she mentions it and you literally he audibles laughter from everybody in the chamber. So, it’s kind of like that’s kind of what it always came down to sort of like it was at attention. But and like I get it like I’m not going to sit here and I’m like, oh, that was offensive like that should have been taking this seriously because no, it shouldn’t have been taken seriously. It really shouldn’t have. But it was kindof that double edged sword, where it was great to kind of get that attention. But yeah, it was something that realistically was never going to happen. And it’s funny because like a lot of that sort of, I guess, humor and the joking and the mocking and that came from Australia, of course. Whereas the international side of things, like people who don’t know Hobart, people don’t know what the city is like. So that’s what you were getting the legitimate people contacting you and sort of being like, OK, like tell me how this is going to work. I mean, you know, we’ve, we’ve reached out to sporting federations around Australia and be like, hey, so are you going to support our bid and just just things like that. I think, I think from memory I got sent a link to. They do like a world sports, likea city book where it’s basically like this is, these are all the cities in the world that can host global sporting events. These are their stadiums. This is what you can do if you’re looking for a city around the world to host and it’s not just multi-sport events. It’s just if you want your world championships, you can remember somebody sent me the link to like the, the e-version of it. And you’re looking at Sydney Stadium, Australia and Hisense, the rain and all this kind of stuff. He’s Melbourne, Adelaide, Adelaide, all these, you know, and then you’ve got Hobart and then they’ve taken everything from our websites and these are like mock venues that don’t exist. So like we were talking about buildinga main stadium called David Foster stadium named after our iconic woodchopper. We had David Boon Centre to name after you know we had the Ponting Dome and then of course, named after the esteemed Tasmanian big brother winner Regina bird. We had Regina arena and people didn’t like publishing this and we’d got like mock drawings up there. Literally this world died because of the NCG and then all of a sudden Regina arena. Oh OK. Go on a little bit weird here, but yeah.
Josh
It’s like the old Wikipedia research.
Ben
Yeah, exactly, exactly. So again, yeah, I mean back to your point it’s sort of, yeah, it was, it was fun. And it got some attention out there for Hobart and at the end of theday, if it brought somebody out there to go. Oh Hobart, that doesn’t sound too bad then, great.
Josh
I wonder if you’ve had any people looking at that venue like people who are stadium fanatics and they’re like, oh Gee, I’ve got to get to Regina Arena in Huntington and then planned a trip to Tassie and been a bit disappointed.
Ben
But yeah, come here that. Yeah, I mean, I mean kind of the irony of it all is that you think about the effort and everything thatwas involved in the Olympics. And I mean, I was lucky enough to work at the Commonwealth games on the Gold Coast in 2018 and even the commonwealth games, which is about a quarter of the size of the Olympics, the scale and everything. But I mean, we’re in the mid Tassie, right. Now obviously of really battling to get an AFL team and it’s something there which that in itself is a, is a massive hurdle overcome. And anybody who knows anything about Tasmania would know sort of some of the, I guess the internal issues we have here with sort of the North South divide where we have a team and, you know, stadium down up to scratch the way would you builda new one, and that comes with a whole other set of issues so unbelievably I Yeah, we, we sort of switch focus to maybe getting a youth Olympic and realistically, I think hoback would have to use Olympics. It’s a much smaller scale and it’s kind of, it’s a lot more relaxed, but even then, I mean, it would be a challenge for a place down here just because of not just infrastructure and the size of the place. But I guess just some of the, the things we have that kind of prevent this from doing some of those things along the long lines.
Josh
So, you big Olympic fan, did you have two plus weeks of pure bliss recently?
Ben
Yeah. Two plus weeks that were very long overdue. I get incredibly invested in the Olympics. Always have you do even more so of one of the podcasts to do with an Olympics once we’re doing daily recap. So you kind of have to, you know, switch focus a little bit more, but I’ll be honest with you. The great thing about Tokyo and being delayed a year is that it means that it’s only then a few more months till the real Olympics, the Winter Olympics, which I’m even more of a big fan. A big Winter Olympics fan. Yeah, I mean summer Olympics are amazing. I absolutely love them, but I’ve always been weirdly more obsessed with the Winter Olympics, which is just I think it just comes down to the fact that these are sports that as Australians we never really get to see ice hockey is there. And kind of as we discussed in the show recently, whereas the summer Olympics is probably a handful of sports that you can probably take out of the Olympics and not lose anything Winter Olympics, there’s no such thing as a bad sport. Every single sport the Winter Olympics is amazing. So yeah, busy last to the last few two weeks when that was on and yeah, now it’s sort of the countdown to Beijing is very weirdly addicted to them.
Josh
Yeah, we have the Paralympics coming up, which is in some ways unfortunate was such a big gap because I think it’s kind of people have maybe moved on.
Ben
But usually, I think these ones are closer usually that I think is longer like it’s more of a sort of a month gap.
Josh
I think shows my memory, is that in my memory, in my head, not being, you know, I’m a casual when I’m looking at what I watch the sporting world, but in my head it’s like, oh, it’s finished Paralympics they go. So there’s a bit of a gap normally.
Ben
Yeah. And usually, I mean the Paralympics just absolutely incredible. I mean, you talk about inspirational people. I mean, my goodness. I mean it’s just, I’m always in awe of watching these athletes in what they can do and what they’ve overcome to kind of get there to do that. And just, I mean, the fact is that there’s like 10 different categories for every single event. So, you are going to have ten different hundred-meter sprint to ten different hundred meter of swimming races like it’s just, it’s crazy and each one of them has their own just light moments. So yeah, it’s, it’s an incredible, it’s an incredible event
Josh
Yes. Well, with the Olympics you actually have had a couple of Young achiever Awards alumni if you will, competing at Tokyo. So, we had Kyle Chalmers, he’s from S.A. And Alex and Annette Edmondson, I believe maybe was just Annette Edmondson who was there this year anyway. And Dennis who got the bronze in the time trials, so I think was we had and Ariarne Titmus actually another Tassie she was yes, nominated when she was very young.
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The thing with Ariarne is that she’s moved to Queensland. So, a lot of people try and claim but like things in Tasmania, we know who our own are. So, we know who a Tasmanian is and what was amazing about Ariarne is that it’s actually was fascinating to learn. She was tasmania’s first ever individual Olympic gold medalist really throughout the history of Tasmanian Olympians that only ever won gold medals in team sports. So rowing with a being ina pair or something like that. So that was something I don’t know how much that made the media down here, but I would that out. It was. It was crazy. Yeah,
Josh
Yeah, that is kind of crazy, isn’t it to think about.
Ben
Yeah, because we had a couple of kookaburras silver medalist Eddie Cckenden. You know, he’s the probably the greatest hockey player Australia has ever produced. I actually played against him when I played hockey. I kind of, I mean, well, I remember it many years ago because I was a goalkeeper and I’m like, I want to take credit for your career and scoring so many goals to remember that really bad goalkeeper that used to play against that team. That was me, so you’re welcome for all the shooting practice. Josh Beltz as well. Yeah, we had a couple of times Tassie medalist, but it was Ariarne, it was sort of the one that we obviously because her dad Steve was growing up. Hewas the number one newsreader in Tasmania. I remember when she sort of started that kind of thing. I’m like, titmus, is that in relation to David Titmus, I guess you know that the Southern cross channel seven newsreader growing up. So it’s kind of weird to have that connection to somebody again in Tasmania. I don’t know the guy personally, but you still sort of know where he’s coming from.
Josh
Yeah, the name as she said, the name rings a bell. So if anyone is wanting to check out that Olympic podcast and you know, as you said, you’re very excited for the Winter Olympics, coming up. Where can they find that? What’s it called?
Ben
It’s called off the podium. So, you can sort of find it on all the good podcast channels where obviously you can find this podcast as well, social media or on Instagram, Facebook and Twitter. And yeah, we’re sort of in the midst of just doing interviews or trying to sort of have aninterview every week in the lead up to Beijing. So, we’re sort of at the moment mixing it up with some returning Tokyo Olympians. We’ve got some winter Olympians in the lead up to Beijing and we’re sort of a Co-Australian Canadian production sort of one of our co-hosts is Canadian. So obviously a lot of Australian athletes on there. But we have a lot of Canadian athletes as well. And even sort of non in Australia like we’ve got some American guests lined up, we’ve gota Swiss guest lined up with one of the original Jamaican bob sledders is so you know things like that, yeah
Josh
Speaking of Canada, so yeah, I know that you lived there for a while. Can you tell us what took you and some of your experiences living there in Canada?
Ben
Yeah, Canada has been a place that I’ve sort of always been weirdly obsessed with. I can remember as a kid, I just, I loved it like it was just sort of, I would be cheering for Canada and things outside of Australia would be competing. And you talk about the Winter Olympics, I would generally go over Canada more than Australia obviously, winning more medals. So, it was a place that I’d always kind of wanted to go to and loved and sort of it always, I guess kind of back to the point about what was wanting to leave Tasmania was like, well, you know, maybe I could live in Canada one day so I’d visited there for the first time when I was twenty three, loved it being back a couple of times, sort of over the years. So, I was kind of always on the bucket list a few years ago, I met a Canadian so it’s kind of, you know, it works that way. And as the story goes, you fall in love and kind of all that kind of fun stuff happens. So it ended upbeing good timing at the time to kind of head over there and move over there with her. That was sort of the main reason kind of how it all happened. But it would have, it would have happened either way, like it was definitely something that was always in the pipeline. But I mean, experiences wise. I mean, it was amazing. It was, I was living in Victoria in B.C. So, people sort of don’t know where that is. It’s on an island called Vancouver Island. So it’s sort of just off the West coast near Vancouver. It’s about a 90-minute ferry ride from Vancouver,
Josh
And oh, yes, a proper island.
Ben
Yeah, this is, I mean, this is the thing I sort of lived on islands my whole life. I’ve lived on inTasmania, Australia, New Zealand, Canada and still I’m on an island, but no, it’s because I would often compare Vancouver Island to Tasmania. It’s sort of similar in terms of it’s sort of a small island often gets forgotten about in Victoria itself is very similar to Hobart, but the differences is that yeah, I could wake up at seven thirty in the morning and be in Vancouver by nine thirty in the morning by driving. Whereas I could not drive to Melbourne and at seven thirty in the morning, I have three, four hours to get Devonport for another eight-hour journey on the spirit of Tasmania. That’s not going to happen. So and Victoria is, it’s an interesting place I had only ever heard of Victoria because I hosted theninety four Commonwealth games. So I remember when I met my partner and she sort of mentioned she was from Victoria. Oh, ninety four Commonwealth games we, we’d connection but yeah, I mean, I again loved it. I love Canadians, I love the people I love kind of the atmosphere there. I mean, I always sort of jokingly say that North Americans and my people like I kind of thought very well with Americans and Canadians, and I love it over there. I’ve travelled mostly mostly to North America, being over things like twenty eight states in the US. A large majority of the provinces in Canada, so, so many experiences over there. I mean I was obsessed with ice hockey and I got incahoots with the local team there and I was doing media stuff for them. I was doing paid podcasting over there for a news organization. Obviously, it wasa bit tricky in the pandemic to be able to do all the things I would like to do in Vancouver a couple of times. And as much as I’d like, you know, I’d organize my US visa so I could go throughout therea lot would have gone to Seattle a lot. That’s only a couple hours away as well. But obviously pandemic can’t really do much that. Yeah, it was, it was an amazing experience, and definitely a place that I will be getting back to, I guess, when sort of things calm down a little bit,
Josh
Was the pandemic kind of behind your move back here to Tassie?
Ben
No, It was sort of yeah, it’s just a few personal things going on, which kind of didn’t have too much ofa choice really to sort of to come back. So. Yeah, it was, it was hard to leave. It was again, I didn’t want to leave in the slightest if I’m being honest with you, so it was sort of not really a proactive choice. Things have things had have been a certain way. I would still be there, but yeah, no, it’s kind of interesting because people that I’m like, I mean even me being back in Tasmania, it’s sort of incognito. There’s still a lot of friends and family that don’t know that I’m back. So, it’s kind of when they find out, oh it’s pandemic reasons. I might just start using that as an excuse not to explain. I mean, it’s not an easy one.
Josh
We’ll I only ask because I hada friend. Yeah, living in Amsterdam and you know, he wanted to get back into London but his visa, whatever it is, long story short. He just thought, well, I know it’s going to happen here. I better just come back just to be safe. I can go back on the Australian healthcare system. So. Yeah. And that was just before it all got really real last year so.
Ben
Well, I got, I mean, that’s a whole other episode in itself. I mean, I moved to Canada in like when everything hit the fan, I was living in New Zealand. I actually was in Australia at the time, so I’d come back to the free. And that was the weekend that everything happened. I mean, I was at the gates of the grand prix when it got cancelled, and then the next day just seemed close borders, New Zealand. So I had to get back then the next day just closed both the Canada. SoI had to rush over and then my partner thinks she’s Canadian, like, I’ll stay back for a week. I’ll get his affairs in order and I’ll join you in a week. That’s interesting to close the entire country, New Zealand down. So she was stuck in New Zealand for two months. I snuck in, I got stuck in the States because they wouldn’t let me into Canada even though I was allowed to get into Canada. It was a whole, you know, just a massive, massive kerfuffle and then this year, coming back like I was zigzagging across the States just to get a flight back to Australia and then you obviously have to do the whole two-week quarantine, I’ve done 3 two week quarantine, so gravens. Yeah, I’m kind of down pat with them now, but. Yeah, lots of stories to tell the grandkids about one day.
Josh
Now that you’re a quarantine pro, what’s your quick quarantine pro tips for anyone who’s who might have to do one?
Ben
Podcast.
That’s a good point. You get a lot of podcasts done in that time.
Josh
It helps you like a bit. Yeah, yeah, I mean I, I’m generally a stay-at-home recording type of guy anyway. So honestly a lot of the stuff is not really affected me. I mean, I’ve been lucky that wherever I’ve been, I’ve, I’ve not faced a lockdown as such so, but even then I feel it, it wouldn’t really affect me. I mean, Canada was sort of interesting because there were restrictions in place. There weredefinitely things you couldn’t couldn’t do, but you were never locked down. You were never under a threat of a lockdown. And I think kind of based on recent experiences. I think Canada havedone it a little bit better than we have here. But that’s a whole other conversation, but yes, start podcasting. I say the cliche of Netflix and all that kind of stuff. But no, podcasting keeps you busy so, do that.
Josh
You know what, I’ve actually got a bit of an idea that I came mean to do so you’re inspiring me here is that some, some podcasts, but not actually for a good them, but not actually for public release just for now, because doing these ones I’ve learnt that sometimes you hear the story of, of someone and their friends and family actually like comment on the post on social media saying like, wow, I actually didn’t know that about you about that experience you had growing up or something and they’ve been friends for 20 years. Whatever their family, well you know what I mean? Sometimes you just like when you’re hanging out with your friends, you forget to ask or certain questions about the childhood or whatever.
Ben
It could be a family podcast shared around the family and friends sort of thing.
Josh
Yeah, 100%. Like, anyway.
Ben
I’m used to that my family and friends don’t want to listen to my show. So it’s kind of that’s what I’m doing now.
Josh
Well, speaking of some of your shows, I am very interested because not only do you have some excellent pop culture references in your background there. Like I think a Simpsons inspired flag up there you are.
Ben
Yes. That was a gift from my boss in Canada who was like, I’m going to give you an OK and then he gives you this flag and I just, I lost a lot. This is the best gift that they were saying like this makes me think. Yeah, exactly. So it’s the Simpsons, I’m kicking flack from the Australian episode of the Simpsons and the like wasa special tribute. That’s a beautiful thing. It’s a national icon and they point to the flag. It’s brilliant.
Josh
Yeah. And I can see the little, what do they call it? The, the pop figures with the big heads.
Ben
The pops. Yeah. They’re all on James Bond inspired ones which are when we’re doing the, the bond podcast. And yeah, it’s kind of interesting sort of, you know sort of the set up that I’ve got here. You know, I had an epic sort of Wall sort of display where I was in Canada. So, I’ve kind of had to do a makeshift one now, but I sort of went with the, the flag, the Tasmanian flag that’s above me is sort of a mock design. There’s, I think they called flags of Australia on Instagram. They sort of do, I guess, makeshift designs for potential flags of if we have a change in sort of the Union Jack style and I love that design, it’s a, it’s a thylacine kind of with its colours of sort of the dark green, the yellow and the red, so I asked his permission if I could makea version up. He said I could. And then with the movie posters, you had my favorite movie of all time. I’m a big obviously bond fan and sort of Die Another Day is kind of a running joke on our bond podcast, if anyone knows anything about the bond films die another day is often regarded asa pretty rubbish entry. But I really love it. I know it’s trash, but I get so entertained with it. And the Madonna fan, so I love that song.
Josh
Is it the one? I’m not like a Bond fan like you, is it the one where he’s in the tank?
Ben
No that’s. That’s Golden Eye. If you remember, a very cheesy CGI, ice surfing scene with a parachute. Yeah, Halle Berry.
Josh
I remember Halle Berry and I can see the poster behind that.
Ben
Yep, yep. And then Star Wars, big Star Wars fan and I’m probably the biggest prequel defender on the planet.
Josh
I was going to say not many people would have one of the prequel posters up there. I’m trying to think that, that’s must be the third one.
Ben
I and I’m on the really controversial opinion that to me is the best Star Wars movie revenge of the Sith. So that’s a whole other we spend fifty-four hours recapping all the Star Wars movies in the lead up to Skywalker. So, I, I have no life but yeah, so I like to be quirky, sometimes the opinions of what movies the best in a franchise and what’s not.
Josh
So, well Ben, can I test you here because I recently found out I recently had some Jurassic Park trivia. It was just one question in a lot of trivia. So I’m going to give it to you and see how you go with it. Allright, to the top of the head. So, in Jurassic Park, the original, your favorite movie of all time, the VelociRaptor noise. Yep. Supposedly was created by taking audio of two animals mating. Yep. Do you know which animals that were?
Ben
I’m pretty sure it was a dolphin and turtle.
Josh
No, he got it. Yeah, because I have a tortoise but I’m saying I agree with him. I didn’t believe it. I’ve seen both turtle tortoise
Ben
Yeah, it’s crazy. Those are the noises because like you hear it and you look, I think it is in the roar, wasn’t it like a like a line and a tiger and a bear? I have to like combine it all T-Rex roar and stuff like that. So yeah, it’s crazy when you go the next season.
Josh
It is very, very good.
Ben
I’m obsessed. I have no life. What can I say?
Josh
I mean, you could argue that you have a great life. You’re talking about the things you love. That’s beautiful.
Ben
Yeah. Well, I mean, that is true, it would be nice if that that led to a nice steady income. I would say that would be a kind of a fair thing that we did when we did Jurassic Park because we sort of the network is sort of our TV movie won, and we generally do recaps. So, we kind of go over the whole film, usually takes a couple hours and we often sort of tie adding to the release to like obviously the style was on during the release of Rise of Skywalker. And when we did the drastic pop films, it was in the lead up to Paul Kingdom. So gosh, I remember when we did the original Jurassic Park that was like the best day of my life, I was like, yeah, we get to talk about Jurassic park here we go!
Josh
So, is this particular podcast that you talk about all these movies?
Ben
Yeah, it’s called the Oz network, which I mean kind of long story short we, we used to be a solely survival podcast called survivor oz and just focused purely on, on survivor and sort of sort of through that. That’s where we had spinoff sh owslike the James Bond podcast called Double 0 seven is usually always what wasgenerally anda lot of these podcast. And we just had so much fun doing all seven that eventually we got to a point where it’s like, yeah, we love talking about survivor and it was great fun. I mean we listen toa podcast I ever had. I mean, it was ridiculous. The extent we got listened to, but it was sort of like we just wanted to branch out a little bit more. We were getting a bit tired of the survivor fan community; it was very consuming. We were doing so many episodes. I mean you think you just do a, let’s recap the episode of survivor. No, we were recapping survivor, we were getting guests on. We were doing exit interviews. It was just, it was a full time job in itself.
Josh
Oh, so you’re talking to the contestants as well?
Ben
Oh yeah, yeah, we, um, we set ourselves a goal to interview every single former contestant. I think at the time there might have been four hundred and fifty at the time and we got up to about three hundred all of them. I mean, gosh, like survivor is survivor has always been like something I’ve been obsessed with, but the fact that you don’t talk about things in the last 10 years that are really formative part of my life. I mean, I can call a large amount of US contestants, my close personal friends, I’ve stayed with them in the US. I was, you know, going to have some of them at my wedding like people like this sort of really close friends. I forget the survivor contestants is just my friends now. It’s kind of weird. And my Australian survivor podcast I host at History one. I co-host that with an Australian survivor contestant. He was on one of the channel ten seasons.
Josh
So who was that?
Ben
Matt Dawson, he was in the first championship contenders. He was a first boot he was the, the bold traffic cop that kind of couldn’t keep his mouth shut. It’s funny because I actually, I sort of knew him before he went on. He was sort of listening to our show and sort of paths crossed and the thing with the Australian survivor one. So like last time we did survivor of that kind of just transition to the networks. We wanted to covermore movies and TV, but with the ones this one’s called Australian survivor archives. I don’t think a lot of people know in Australia or remember the history of Australian survivor. So people watch it now to channel ten. I mean right now, I believe they’re calling this current season, season five, because it’s the fifth season on channel ten. It’s actually season seven, because in 2002 channel nine did a local version of Australian survivor sort of contractually obliged that when you add the US version back when it started, you had to produce a local version. Because I did back in 2002, it was filmed in South Australia, was filmed in Wales and in port Lincoln. And it wasn’t very well received because there were little things like they couldn’t get the rights to the music. They couldn’t get the rights to sort of other parts of it. So, it wasn’t something that people liked at the time. And then in twenty-six channel seven found a loophole when the survivor contract. And we’re allowed to do a celebrity version. So they did celebrity survivor in 2006. You know, you had people like John Leech image and daily Wayne Gardner sort of your B and C’s celebrities at the time. But so, we decided to kind of acknowledge the history because we like the first season back in 2002, actually severely underrated.
It is amazing. And now we’re up to covering celebrity survivor. And then we’re going to go through the all channel 10 and season. So that’s kind of without our project and it’s been amazing. We tracked down every single contestant from the OG 2002 version, the ones who are with us, there’s two who sadly passed away and one in jail the they may well have. Yeah. So, we, we did that and we’re actually in November, this year, covid permitting, with, we’re organizing a 20-year reunion in Whaler’s Way. So we are flying to Whaler’s W ay. And a bunch of the contestants are going to go back to the filming location, and we’re going to host a little event over the weekend. So, it’s a fun project and a deep history of Australian people. I don’t think we realize it’s actually a thing and it’s led me. I’ve always wanted to write a book. And I’m in the process of writing my first book. I’m going to writea book on the history of Australian survivor. Probably send you a copy.
Josh
I’ll but it mate, because I really like a now that I know I like the newer channel 10 series. Quite like it. I’d known about the American survivor watch bits and pieces, but I couldn’t even tell you if I watched a whole season straight through. And I just thought I’ll give the Australian one a view and I got hooked immediately.
Ben
It’s different. I’ll say right now, because I find it fascinating. Now that in this country we’ve got fans who are and it’s great, it’s a great thing that people are hooked on survivor based on the Australian version. This is how it should have always been, but I’ve met so many people now who are like, I’ve never watched the us one and that that baffles me because it’s, yeah, I mean I, I’m a day one viewer. I was 13 when it aired in 2000, and I was hooked immediately. I’ve watched every season from day one, I’ve gone through everything and this is the thing I always like to say, like someone like yourself, if the Australian, or even if you go back to the old US version. It’s like, it’s almost like watchinga documentary kind of watching the, like, if you watched season one of Borneo, it’s insanely different. Like, nowadays it’s flashy. It’s idols as twists. This blindsides it’s. You’re taught to play the game now that you’ve got to have this survivor resume, which gives me the absolute, I don’t know five minutes. That’s like, basically because it’s not a thing. Where is like, it used to just be the social aspect. You just forming relationships and there’sall levels of gameplay. So yeah it’s, it’s fun, but it’s a great thing like, don’t get me wrong. It is fantastic. That Australian survivor fans, I think based on a local version because this is how it should have been back in 2002, it should have taken off back then and sadly didn’t. And I know many Americans who are big fans of our version than they are of their own, because real, there you go with the U.S. version has taken many twists and turns and they’re about to do the 41st season in a couple of weeks.
Josh
So yeah, so they must not get to a year or is it they do two a year?
Ben
Yes, they obviously last year was well Borneo season except for the early days last year they season 40 was sort of a celebration. It was a 20th anniversary, 20 year anniversary, so they did an all winning season, which was sort of the dream season. Everyone had always wanted a season with all former with us to come back and playa pretty good season. And then yeah, they sort of everything aside, they couldn’t do season forty-one last year. So technically we should be able toseason forty three now in the US. But obviously they’ve lost two seasons. But it was the same with Australian survivor after all stars last year. They were meant to do the next season at the end of last year. But obviously they can’t. But I believe they’re filming the current the next season, which will air early next year. Right now, as opposed to the one that’s airing at the moment.
Josh
Well, I understand you let me know if you don’t want to talk about this too much, but I love some of the stuff you remember? It’s hilarious. I like your writing style. But basically, you said I was asking youfor a bit of information or some talking points in the podcast, and so you provide heaps of stuff other than that, you can just Google me. Although you might find some hate threads the early days of your survivor podcast, you got to elaborate a little bit on that.
Ben
Well, yes, I sort of came back to the Survivors days. So, we kind of took off wheedling that aspect when we started getting listeners. And I guess I was sort of known for a few things. I was known as a bit of a suck up, which I am. I learned that a lot of I’d get every guest on the show and everything like, oh my God, you’re my favorite. And I think kind of people didn’t like that. I had sort of tying into what I was saying before about how I like revenge of the Sith or I liked Die Another day. I kind of liked sort of the things that aren’t necessarily popularin the fan community. So, I would like seasons and contestants that weren’t very well liked. So therefore, I had opinions that a lot of people didn’t like. And I guess I just got to a point where I was also a little bit outspoken, so I’d kind of speak out and kind of not be afraid to say things. So yeah, there was a very prominent survivor forum called survivor sock’s, which it’s sort of been around. Gosh, since the old seasons well before social media. So it’s sort of you have a one day, a time capsule of how people were thinking during the original survivor seasons. And we use it a lot on Survivor podcasts because there’s threads about the original Australian survivor season. So it’s actually really good to get in the mindset of what peoplewere thinking while they were watching it. So yeah, there was somebody created the sort of the survivor roles thread, which at the time was like the second or third most commented thread on this forum. Ridiculous, but then somebody started up the Ben Waterworth sucks or the Ben Waterworth hate and you know, they kind of say you make it when you’ve got haters. Right. So it was funny. It’s just like there’s one comment I remember, and I don’t think I can write it out completely in terms of the apartment itself. But it was something about bagnato Tasmanian’s and the stereotypes within relating me to like the worst thing to come from Tasmania since David Boon, which was not offending because I’m like, that’s not very nice. He’s been a legend.
Josh
That’s a compliment.
Ben
Exactly. But it was just, it was strange because, you know, there was just some of the stuff that people would say, but it kind of, it took a weak turn because we the most prominent survivor podcast in the world is a podcast called Rob has a podcast. Guy who owns it was a season six contestant and also came back for all stars in season eight. And Jeff Probst famously called him the best player never to have won. And that was at the time a lot of a lot of people have played since I don’t think that still stands true, but he’s very popular, very, very popular. And his podcast. I mean it’s huge it’s, we were number two to him at one point, but that’s like saying that on the, the second fastest man in the world behind same bolt. There’s a big gap between number one and number two. Right? Yes. So we, we interviewed him and I thinka lot of our our listeners came from, there was another interview around when we interviewed him, of another contestant called Rob, who was on another season. And a question we asked, I can’t remember what the question was, , but basically this other Rob said that the Rob from the podcast was a bit of a douche. And kind of like started back in and out of whatever that kind of leaked out to another Rob, who then was like, I don’t know what he’s talking about. I was only ever nice to him. So, then people went to listen to our show because like, oh, what do you say? And it kind of it all fell from there. So, a lot of his fans were very like the survivor fan community is a very interesting fan community. We got stuck with a lot of stick from that and then you know, over the years we just, yeah, it was kind of opinions and things and everything that people didn’t really like what I said so, but again, I owned it for all the bad. We had; we had a lot of good. I mean, I went yeah, I went to reality events in the states to meet these contestants and do interviews and stuff like that and I have people asking me for my autograph and I just feel like you’re kidding me. I’m like who like, who am I like nobody so that’s awesome. All the bad. We’ve got a few good bits.
Josh
Well Ben, to bring it full circle. I’m glad that we endedsome positive at the end in a negative there’s and positive coming out, and that’s, that’s kind of like a analogy of the Internet can be a pretty horrible place at times, but it’s alsoa great platform to showcase positivity and coming back to your nomination in the Young Achiever Awards back in 2010 and again, this is bringing it full circle spirit of Tasmania, were the sponsor of that award and because of a quirk in our system, the way it’s followed, I can’t find the award category that you were nominated in. Do you remember?
Ben
I think I have that somewhere around here actually, because certainly you talk about full circle and everything. One of the guests we had recently on off the podium wasa 400-meter hurdler Olympian from London by the name of Tristan Thomas, a Tassie guy. And I’d interviewed him many years ago for The Brink and we kind of got him on recently he out of nowhere sent me a photo of the program of that award and here he actually is literally the spirit of Tasmania award. That’s what it was called.
Josh
Yeah. Well, that’s, that’s what I’ve got as the Spirit Tasmania Awards, so maybe it was about the spirit because we’ve had a really good relationship with the Tasmanian Institute of sport. We had a lot of young athletes nominated. So I wonder if he was there that night.
Ben
I think he was because I think that’s why he sent me the program because again, it’s like, it’s sort of he and I sort of talked on and off over the years. I think I’d also had written a magazine article on him at one point and his dad was the Lord mayor of Hobart. Sokind of, you know, and I interviewed him plenty of times. So. Yeah, it was just one of these random out of the blue says, you know, you have received an image from Tristan, I would say, and you open it up and there it is. Right up from the spirit of Tasmania awards in 2010. So yeah, yeah,
Josh
So yeah, yeah, well, so you know, we’ve got you on all these years later, Spirit of Tasmania, we’re a sponsor fora long time and then they were not. And now they are again. So let’s go exactly. Oh, this is things they come and they come in circles and waves a life and you’re in one way while you’re back in Tassie and for your sake, Ben, hope that you get to go where it is you want to be when the world returns toa bit more normality when we can travel again easier.
Ben
And I think I look forward to that too.
Josh
Yes. Yes. It’s like there’s a lot of podcasts. Is there an easy place people can go to find out more about you and to kind of get some more info on those podcasts?
Ben
Yeah, look, the easiest way is probably just hit me up on my website benwaterworth.com. Do that because if you type Ben Waterworth in Google, you’ll probably find the other Ben Waterworth the more famous Ben Waterworth, the Fox Sports analyst. Yeah, we are different people. I mean, when I worked at the Mercury, he worked at the Herald sun. Literally our email addresses were exactly the sameexcept I had to have the number two in my name. They couldn’t put benjamin.waterworth@news.com.au they have to used ben.waterworth2, it was very annoying because every email you get is two of you. Yes. Yes. But yeah, benwaterworth.com is where you can find it. There’s, there’s links there to sort of other episodes and kind of links to all the shows there and some other former sort of things that I do. So yeah, I guess if people are so inclined to kind of see me, I will say that ignore the images. I’ve lost a lot of weight since a lot of those images are nice. So, enjoy fat, Ben Waterworth and you know, stay for the fat. Stay for the thin when you stop me in social media, if you’re really so inclined to why not.
Josh
Now it’s great, Ben, thank you for coming on. Appreciate it. Very, very much. Really enjoyed the chat and looking forward to it, getting into some of your on the podcast because they basically all topics that I like as well. So it’s been very fun.
Ben
Josh, thank you very much. A pleasure to chat with you and your listeners. Hopefully, if I haven’t inspired you of maybe somewhat entertained you for at least five minutes during this chat. So I know it’sa pleasure and best of luck with everything and look forward to hearing some more of these great guests coming up on the show too.
Josh
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