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Jazmyn: Trailblazing Music Maven Extraordinaire


In this week’s episode, Geoff chats with Jazmyn Smith, Winner – 7NEWS Young Achiever Awards QLD. Queensland Small Business Commissioner’s Small Business Achiever Award 2023.


Jazmyn has made strides in the Australian Music Industry within the first three years of her career, with a diverse array of clients ranging from Murray Cook and Lee Kernaghan to Hayley Marsten and Melody Moko. 2023 saw Jazmyn receive Channel 7’s Small Business of the Year award for Queensland for her music media company, Jazmyn Produces. At just 28, Jazmyn is a self-taught filmmaker and photographer and has travelled across Australia, New Zealand, and America for her creative endeavours. She employs young regional creatives in her hometown of Gympie as production assistants, giving them the opportunity to work in both the arts and the music industry. Jazmyn also runs a sister brand, Calamity Jane Music Management, where she has worked extensively with artists from Murray Cook to Vixens of Fall, supporting them with social media management, content creation, press, fundraising, and marketing efforts. Jazmyn has been recently shortlisted for ABC’s Trail Blazers program, which would see Jazmyn and her team travel to Canberra to address Parliament House. Jazmyn is a single mother, a member of the LGBTQ community, and has found her success despite trying beginnings, including moving out of home at just 15 to a women’s shelter, and independently putting herself through the completion of high school, graduating with a scholarship to Griffith University.


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[00:00:08] Geoff

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[00:00:58] Geoff

Our podcast guest this week is the extraordinary jazmin Smith, who won the seven years young achiever small business award for Queensland earlier this year for her extraordinary achievements in the Music industry here in Australia. Jasmine,  welcome to the inspirational Australians podcast.

[00:01:19] Jazmyn

Thank you so much for having me.  I’m delighted to be here. Well, it’s really,  really great to talk to you. You have achieved so much over your short journey so far. And I’m not going to steal any thunder by talking through what any of that is. But you certainly are an inspiration and you have a passionate love for the arts and Music, which is wonderful. I don’t have an artistic bone or notes in my body so I’m always really thrilled and inspired and overawed by people like yourself who are extraordinary. So when did your interest in the arts first start and where did it come from?

[00:01:58] Jazmyn

You know, I get this question a lot and it’s kind of just one of those answers where I feel like it was just something intrinsic in me. A part of who I am as a person. My family wasn’t particularly artistic in any sense,  although my grandmother was a painter. But I think just just my love for Music and books and all of that good stuff. I just always wanted to access it and be able to make that a big part of my life.

[00:02:26] Jazmyn

So yeah, we probably did a little bit tougher than many because you hear the story of people saying,  oh my mom, my dad and I’m on to was this extraordinary singer and her great success,  or I, or a violinist or whatever it was. But you really started from just an innate passion, so that would have been much more complex or difficult. I imagine.

[00:02:53] Jazmyn

Yeah,  I suppose the, you know, being void of it kind of made me more hungry for it and you know, the people and that the modes that I look to for inspiration were everything I was watching on rage TV on a Saturday morning or all of the books that my granddad would leave for me to read at bedtime, so I had lots of inspiration,  just not physical people right there. At what point did you realize you had a real musical talent?

[00:03:24] Jazmyn

I’ve been songwriting actually since I was tiny, as long as I can remember. I just wanted to replicate everything I loved about Music and just a chronic writer. So writing poems, stories,  and songs just naturally came on from that. It’s fascinating. So you,  you put your thoughts into words and then into Music.

[00:03:47] Jazmyn

Yes. Yeah. What, what type of Music did you write?  Was there a theme or just anything and everything? Well, when I was younger, I think I definitely used it as a cathartic process to kind of articulate a lot of the more difficult things that I was surrounded by in my younger life. And then so a lot of that earlier writing was quite, you know, sad or angsty or what have you. But I’m definitely happy now that the Music that I’m actually releasing to the world is kind of on the other side of that journey. And so the Music I make now is kind of folksy. I love like Peter Paul and Mary Simon and Garfunkel, that kind of Music. So I like to think that it now comes with a great deal of light around it.

[00:04:35] Jazmyn

And you know, positive messaging,  although not trying to negate, you know, where all of that positivity and Gratitude was born from having to go through all the hard yards to find a

[00:04:48] Geoff

that’s really fascinating because we hear constantly the value and importance of talking with someone about your worries, the things that concern you in life and just getting it out. And I think there’s

[00:05:04] Geoff

a lesson there for all of us. If you don’t feel comfortable at a particular time to talk to someone,

[00:05:09] Geoff

you don’t have someone to put your thoughts on paper. And I imagine that was very

[00:05:15] Geoff

helpful, helpful for you in your early days.

[00:05:18] Jazmyn

Yes, absolutely. And you know,

[00:05:21] Jazmyn

even even when I was younger and that was kind of the way that I was doing it,

[00:05:25] Jazmyn

you know, the validation,

[00:05:26] Jazmyn

even just from teachers who I’d be able to sort of share my writing with that was

[00:05:31] Jazmyn

what propelled me to keep pursuing it. Into my adult life because they vouched for

[00:05:36] Jazmyn

me so much of my writing back then. And then now getting to release Music to the

[00:05:40] Jazmyn

world. It’s just you feel seen. And you also have this beautiful flow on effect

[00:05:47] Jazmyn

where the Music that you’re making is helping other people to feel safe. So it’s

[00:05:51] Jazmyn

this beautiful holistic event where, you know, I’m able to connect with a community,

[00:05:58] Jazmyn

But they’re also finding something that they can connect with in return.

[00:06:02] Geoff

And I imagine it would be hard to even understand or appreciate yourself,

[00:06:07] Geoff

the value that you can offer and how far reaching your service to the world is

[00:06:14] Geoff

or makes because of what you do.

[00:06:18] Jazmyn

Yeah, I mean, look, I am a big data analytics type of

[00:06:23] Jazmyn

a person despite all the artistic background. And it’s really interesting actually,  you know, when you release Music,

[00:06:30] Jazmyn

you get all your stats back from Spotify and Apple Music and whatnot. And it’s so

[00:06:35] Jazmyn

interesting to actually watch it spread throughout the world and all the different folks in different countries, you know,

[00:06:40] Jazmyn

picking it up and participating in it. But yeah,

[00:06:42] Jazmyn

I guess I’m really excited to lean into touring and playing more live Music to

[00:06:48] Jazmyn

actually have that direct connection with audiences and hear the feedback in person

[00:06:53] Jazmyn

I suppose is what’s just kind of missing from the equation at the moment.

[00:06:58] Geoff

Why make sure you admit to your, through your mailing list,

[00:07:02] Jazmyn

you’ll be on the VIP guest

[00:07:03] Geoff


[00:07:04] Geoff

Oh, even better sounds perfect.  Can you give us

[00:07:08] Geoff

a brief outline of your journey that led to the birth?

[00:07:11] Geoff

? And I guess you just started that But led to the journey or the birth of your business. Jasmine producers.

[00:07:19] Jazmyn

Yeah, absolutely. So yes,  Jasmine produces is my bread and butter. So that’s what keeps it all ticking. I’ve

[00:07:26] Jazmyn

always had that entrepreneurial bone in my body.

[00:07:29] Jazmyn

You know,  always the kid handing out flyers, riding my bike around,

[00:07:32] Jazmyn

trying to get people to let me bird sit. I think at one point was somewhere I don’t

[00:07:37] Jazmyn

know what birds I don’t know how many minded But anyway,

[00:07:41] Jazmyn

we learned from my when I was twenty one. I dropped out of my Uni degree. Had just

[00:07:47] Jazmyn

had my first son and I started. Oh, well, actually I bought

[00:07:52] Jazmyn

a secondhand camera off of Gumtree and just decided that, you know,

[00:07:57] Jazmyn

I’d always loved photography and filmmaking had no formal training, But I thought,

[00:08:02] Jazmyn

I wonder if anybody would, you know, pay me

[00:08:03] Jazmyn

a little bit of money to do this. And so I actually started my first business,

[00:08:08] Jazmyn

my first serious business was a wedding media company, and it just,  it became so successful,

[00:08:15] Jazmyn

so organically and so quickly. We actually ended up shooting over one hundred

[00:08:20] Jazmyn

weddings. In a few years.

[00:08:21] Jazmyn

I travelled internationally for weddings and had

[00:08:24] Jazmyn

a team that I was able to build in to meet you know,

[00:08:27] Jazmyn

the demand and then covid came along and suddenly all the weddings were off the

[00:08:33] Jazmyn

table. And at that point I was actually feeling quite burnt out from, you know,

[00:08:38] Jazmyn

the amount of travel that I was investing in having to reach people far and wide

[00:08:43] Jazmyn

that wanted us there. And also I think I just really was craving

[00:08:47] Jazmyn

a change of pace to be able to lean more into the artistic side of the shooting. So

[00:08:53] Jazmyn

Jasmine produces is a brand we exclusively work with musicians and artists. And you know,  I actually didn’t put

[00:09:03] Jazmyn

a lot of forethought into moving in that direction. I just knew that Music was my

[00:09:09] Jazmyn

biggest passion is my biggest passion. And so I thought it just makes sense to

[00:09:13] Jazmyn

transfer the skillset from here to here. And then thankfully I got very lucky and

[00:09:18] Jazmyn

it took off equally in just as successful way and I’ve been able to pursue it and

[00:09:24] Jazmyn

you know, round out the edges and yeah it’s,  it’s great.

[00:09:27] Geoff

Now fantastic. Is that so you really, I mean,  the lesson there for all of us to,

[00:09:33] Geoff

I guess innovate constant look at what we’re doing, how we can do it better,  what we’re in,

[00:09:38] Geoff

what we are enjoying and gives us joy and satisfaction collect

[00:09:46] Geoff

collectively with how can we grow our business, you know,

[00:09:51] Geoff

be the one to many as you say, traveling to each event or

[00:09:56] Geoff

a wedding or whatever it is that you’re doing is pretty tough work. So the way you

[00:10:03] Geoff

turn that into something, even more special was really cool. And I think that’s,  as I said,

[00:10:08] Geoff

a lesson for everybody to just constantly be re rebirthing or relooking at yourself

[00:10:13] Geoff

and how you doing things and what you’re actually enjoying and hey,

[00:10:16] Geoff

can do it better and reach more people. Well,  some of the all of your clients, no doubt,

[00:10:25] Geoff

a very special who are some of your clients that you’ve had an amazing moment with

[00:10:32] Geoff

or that people would know.

[00:10:34] Jazmyn

Yeah,  I have had the opportunity to work with so many incredibly talented individuals.

[00:10:40] Jazmyn

Definitely a highlight for me has been when Mr. Murray Cook, the erg red wiggle,

[00:10:47] Jazmyn

actually found me on Instagram. And I actually after

[00:10:53] Jazmyn

a couple of years of just watching each other back and forth on their and having

[00:10:56] Jazmyn

a couple of chats because they’re based in Sydney and I’m up in Gympie,

[00:10:59] Jazmyn

Queensland. They actually just pulled the trigger and said we would like to

[00:11:05] Jazmyn

basically put me on retainer and I have a sister brand called Calamity Jane,

[00:11:09] Jazmyn

which is my management company.

[00:11:11] Jazmyn

So they signed on to that and I had the opportunity

[00:11:14] Jazmyn

to work with them for multiple film clips photoshoots coming up to the release of

[00:11:19] Jazmyn

their most recent album. So that’s definitely been a highlight. I’ve also yeah,  very,

[00:11:24] Jazmyn

very cool. Just so awesome to learn from people and be trusted by people that have

[00:11:29] Jazmyn

been in the industry for so long and worked with so many people who provide the

[00:11:34] Jazmyn

same service as me. But yeah, it kind of

[00:11:37] Jazmyn

it kind of also forces me to give up a little bit of the imposter syndrome,

[00:11:41] Jazmyn

which I was definitely still carrying around. But you know, in hindsight,

[00:11:46] Jazmyn

I think it is always that it’s a lesson that true that I should have just,

[00:11:52] Jazmyn

I should have just trusted myself without that validation. And I think I’ll take

[00:11:56] Jazmyn

that lesson going forward for sort of any other moments where I am doubting myself.  But yeah,

[00:12:02] Jazmyn

I’ve also worked with incredible country musicians. A lot of my artists that I work

[00:12:07] Jazmyn

with actually are in the country genre, which is nothing intentional on my end,

[00:12:11] Jazmyn

But just word of mouth. It kind of gets around in circles. So Lee kernaghan is

[00:12:16] Jazmyn

probably the household name that everybody is aware of. So, yes, so lots of great,

[00:12:22] Jazmyn

incredible people in between. But yeah,

[00:12:25] Geoff

and every client,  every person that you work with is special, because you’re helping to make

[00:12:31] Geoff

a difference and become part of their journey. The imposter syndrome is really, really real for all of us. Well,

[00:12:41] Geoff

I reckon nearly every single person suffers from that,

[00:12:45] Geoff

and I was really intrigued when you know you said that having

[00:12:49] Geoff

a key moment helped you overcome that and it is something that many of us don’t

[00:12:56] Geoff

ever overcome what’s what’s your thoughts putting you on the spot about how

[00:13:03] Geoff

we can do that is you talked about there was

[00:13:05] Geoff

a moment in time that you realized that you are worthy. Yeah.

[00:13:12] Jazmyn

I think that, you know,  I don’t always feel this way. And I definitely have to keep practicing what I

[00:13:18] Jazmyn


[00:13:19] Jazmyn

But imposter syndrome is one of those things that it’s kind of

[00:13:22] Jazmyn

a luxury for us to dwell in that. And I think it’s also just almost

[00:13:27] Jazmyn

a tool to stop us from working as hard or dreaming as big as we could. And suddenly

[00:13:33] Jazmyn

in Australia we have this, you know,

[00:13:34] Jazmyn

the tall poppy syndrome where we kind of have this strange attitude toward people that you know,

[00:13:42] Jazmyn

believe in themselves or want to stand up tall and strong and proud. And I think it

[00:13:46] Jazmyn

holds all of us back and especially, you know,

[00:13:49] Jazmyn

working in the Music industry in Australia. A really big issue that we have is that there is kind of

[00:13:54] Jazmyn

a ceiling to what artists can achieve. Because we don’t have the sort of media loop that the US has,

[00:14:01] Jazmyn

and we don’t have the kind of awards with the prestige that the US has. And I think

[00:14:07] Jazmyn

a lot of that has to do with us all keeping ourselves in these smaller boxes and

[00:14:13] Jazmyn

being scared to kind of take up more space and have the bigger voice and you know,

[00:14:19] Jazmyn

beat our chests a little bit more. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with that,  and in fact,

[00:14:23] Jazmyn

I do actually think that we owe it to ourselves and we also owe it to whichever

[00:14:28] Jazmyn

industry we are passionate about and working inside of to actually think well is

[00:14:33] Jazmyn

this serving me in any way to have to sit inside of this imposter syndrome and put

[00:14:39] Jazmyn

energy behind it and let it kind of Be available in front of whatever I’m doing is

[00:14:44] Jazmyn

that serving me in any way. And if not, you know,

[00:14:47] Jazmyn

I think it’s just always the choice to choose bravery and courage instead. Even

[00:14:53] Jazmyn

though it is scary, I think it just,

[00:14:55] Jazmyn

it has the potential to propel us and our industries to bigger, bigger Heights,

[00:15:01] Jazmyn

bigger potential. Once we get rid of a lot of that fear, so yeah, I think,  you know,

[00:15:07] Jazmyn

it’s not always something that we feel comfortable choosing to just believe in ourselves,

[00:15:12] Jazmyn

dropped out. But I think it is worthwhile.

[00:15:15] Geoff

I think the last couple of minutes we’ve

[00:15:17] Geoff

just captured is probably something we should bottle for all generations of the future. Put it in

[00:15:24] Geoff

a time capsule. A copy for every generation to come. It’s just Brilliant.  So I think you absolutely nailed it,

[00:15:33] Geoff

and we really need to be aware of how much energy it costs us each time

[00:15:40] Geoff

we spend thinking we’re not good enough. So just great words of wisdom. Jasmine,  thank you so much. Really,

[00:15:47] Geoff

really cool. Now you mentioned that you’re in Gympie and I know you have

[00:15:53] Geoff

a number of local staff. Is that a disadvantage for you?

[00:15:57] Geoff

How do you, do you being outside of the metropolitan areas?

[00:16:03] Jazmyn

Yeah. You know,  there are moments where it definitely feels like it has its weaknesses. Over its

[00:16:10] Jazmyn

strengths, we’re obviously disconnected from the major Music hubs and you know,

[00:16:15] Jazmyn

a bigger population to have instant access to. But you know, in,  in being in Gympie,

[00:16:22] Jazmyn

there’s so many beautiful things that come of it. One of them that you touched on

[00:16:26] Jazmyn

is being able to employ young staff here who otherwise wouldn’t have the

[00:16:30] Jazmyn

opportunity to work in the arts or in the Music industry.

[00:16:33] Jazmyn

So that’s

[00:16:34] Jazmyn

a really special thing to me because I feel like I’m directly impacting, you know,

[00:16:39] Jazmyn

these folks lives in ways that they wouldn’t otherwise have access to,

[00:16:42] Jazmyn

which has flow on effects to our community as

[00:16:45] Jazmyn

a whole. So being able to sort of participate in shaping the culture here is

[00:16:50] Jazmyn

a really interesting kind of experiment to be a part of. And beyond that,

[00:16:55] Jazmyn

I think it’s caused me and forced me to have to innovate and think outside of the

[00:17:00] Jazmyn

box. And those things have actually become our strength. So for example,

[00:17:05] Jazmyn

one way that we tackle this is we now do tours, which is not

[00:17:09] Jazmyn

a typical thing that you hear media companies, you know,

[00:17:12] Jazmyn

kind of participating in. But we decided to do tours. So we do

[00:17:17] Jazmyn

a couple each year where we travel interstate to service multiple clients at once

[00:17:22] Jazmyn

in those bigger Music hubs. And they can share the travel costs between, you know,

[00:17:27] Jazmyn

a number of them.

[00:17:28] Jazmyn

So it’s not exponentially more than it would be just hiring

[00:17:31] Jazmyn

someone locally because obviously social media is

[00:17:34] Jazmyn

a massive tool for us. And so we get followers from all over Australia all over the

[00:17:38] Jazmyn

world. And, you know, they see our work and they want to work with us,

[00:17:43] Jazmyn

But we try to make it as easy and accessible as possible. I suppose. So. Yeah,

[00:17:48] Jazmyn

the innovation factor I think is what keeps me not resenting me. Like I really try

[00:17:54] Jazmyn

to look at it as a tool to just work that little bit harder and think that little bit more

[00:17:59] Jazmyn

creatively about how to overcome these problems,

[00:18:01] Jazmyn

to hopefully also solve those problems for people that come after me who want to do

[00:18:06] Jazmyn

similar work in the same industry, so

[00:18:09] Geoff

be a great role role model for communities that have young people that stay or

[00:18:16] Geoff

going to thinking about leaving. And can I make it likely to showcase that you can

[00:18:23] Geoff

if you work hard and the world is your oyster?

[00:18:26] Geoff

And you have shown that because you have undertaken quite some extensive travel,  having you to

[00:18:34] Geoff

a number of locations. Can you tell us some of those locations and what that so look like.

[00:18:41] Jazmyn

Yeah,  absolutely sir. We’ve done all our Australian rounds.

[00:18:45] Jazmyn

We’re frequently in New South

[00:18:46] Jazmyn

Wales for either, you know, our Music festivals or Sydney is

[00:18:49] Jazmyn

a really big spot for us. But we also had the opportunity to travel over to

[00:18:54] Jazmyn

Hollywood and to Los Angeles,

[00:18:56] Jazmyn

to film some behind the scenes for one of our clients who was recording the album

[00:19:01] Jazmyn

over in Nashville. So that’s been a really exciting experience for me. I think it’s definitely something that I want

[00:19:09] Jazmyn

to factor into our year ahead. Also,  we’re really trying to plan another Nashville trip as

[00:19:16] Jazmyn

a team to service American artists over there. Not just because it’s obviously

[00:19:20] Jazmyn

a great experience for my team and myself to kind of Be absorbed in these other cultures and, you know,

[00:19:26] Jazmyn

meet and connect with new artists and the industry over there. But also because Nashville really is

[00:19:33] Jazmyn

a big feeder community and culture for the Australian country Music scene. A lot of

[00:19:39] Jazmyn

our artists actually frequently travel to Nashville to co-write or to record. And

[00:19:45] Jazmyn

so it’s really important to us actually to understand what’s happening over there

[00:19:49] Jazmyn

and get that real sense for it to be able to bring that back into the work we do

[00:19:53] Jazmyn

here. So yeah, international travel, I mean,

[00:19:56] Jazmyn

it has all its obvious benefits for expanding horizons, But yeah, I think that’s

[00:20:01] Jazmyn

a really important thing for us to have a point of difference in actually understanding that culture.

[00:20:06] Geoff

It’s great to have Nashville as a mentor, in a sense. Speaking of mentors, do you have a mentor?

[00:20:13] Geoff

I mean, you’ve done so much. You’ve really changed outstanding results to have

[00:20:19] Geoff

a mentor or someone that you look up to.

[00:20:22] Jazmyn

You know, I wish that I had,  I really wish that I had found at this point someone in

[00:20:28] Jazmyn

a similarly industry that I had connected with and would immediately sort of relate

[00:20:33] Jazmyn

to that mentorship title.

[00:20:35] Jazmyn

I think my,

[00:20:37] Jazmyn

the way that I’ve learnt from people is like all of my clients in various

[00:20:42] Jazmyn

capacities. And I would say that, you know, my biggest inspiration just as

[00:20:47] Jazmyn

a human is my grandmother and my grandfather. Just people that have taught me all

[00:20:51] Jazmyn

the core foundational skills about how to be a good person,

[00:20:55] Jazmyn

how to look after yourself and how to look after others. So it’s not necessarily connected to the industry,

[00:21:00] Jazmyn

But I think it’s all those foundational things that have, you know,

[00:21:04] Jazmyn

given me the opportunity to be successful because I’ve set myself up internally for

[00:21:09] Jazmyn

success. So yeah, definitely Grandma and granddad,  little shout out.

[00:21:14] Geoff

Good. Grandma and granddad. And I think we need someone to look

[00:21:18] Geoff

up to or to fall back on when times are tough. Just to think about the things that we’ve learned,

[00:21:25] Geoff

no matter what that is. Values are really important. And it sounds to me without

[00:21:32] Geoff

putting words in your mouth that the Values and the life experiences that your

[00:21:39] Geoff

grandparents have taught you have held you in really good stead because you haven’t

[00:21:43] Geoff

always done it easy. Have you you had a pretty tough teenage years.  Are you comfortable to tell us through,

[00:21:52] Geoff

you know, to put some context in place, you don’t have to of course,

[00:21:56] Geoff

But put some context around our listeners understanding just how far you’ve come.

[00:22:02] Geoff

You really did do it tough through those high high School and early,  tertiary years, didn’t you?

[00:22:08] Jazmyn

Yeah. You know, I have this, I have

[00:22:12] Jazmyn

this trait that I’m not sure is a blessing or a curse, But I like to think it’s

[00:22:15] Jazmyn

a blessing that I actually do feel very comfortable and actually relish in the

[00:22:19] Jazmyn

opportunity to tell these stories. Because I would really like it to reach somebody who is in

[00:22:25] Jazmyn

a similar circumstance to really like know that it is very possible to overcome all

[00:22:30] Jazmyn

the statistics that come along with these things. But yeah, I mean,  not even just my teenage years,

[00:22:36] Jazmyn

I guess the story that I most publicly share most frequently is that I moved out of

[00:22:40] Jazmyn

home into a women’s shelter. When I was fifteen,  put myself through high School independently,

[00:22:46] Jazmyn

got myself there every day bought all my books, you know,

[00:22:49] Jazmyn

packed all my lunches. And I graduated with a great o.p.

[00:22:53] Jazmyn

and a scholarship to Griffith University, which was, you know,  just beyond my wildest dreams.

[00:22:59] Jazmyn

But you know,

[00:23:00] Jazmyn

everything that led up to me needing to move out of home into a women’s shelter,

[00:23:05] Jazmyn

I suppose are the stories that are less told. But you know,

[00:23:09] Jazmyn

I sometimes if I go and link up with

[00:23:12] Jazmyn

a psychologist from time to time when I just need that little bit of, you know,

[00:23:16] Jazmyn

connection there. When I’m meeting somebody for the first time and listing it all

[00:23:21] Jazmyn

off, they kind of sit back and they’re like, well,  you just tick all the boxes. You know,

[00:23:27] Jazmyn

I feel like I’ve overcome so much of that and I’ve done

[00:23:30] Jazmyn

a lot of work where it doesn’t, you know,

[00:23:32] Jazmyn

impact me in the same ways. So I do feel comfortable talking about it. But yeah,

[00:23:37] Jazmyn

I suppose just all of the big, broad brush brush strokes of it, you know,

[00:23:41] Jazmyn

a little bit of neglect in the childhood and things of that nature. I’m sure the

[00:23:47] Jazmyn

listeners can use their imaginations, But yeah, just, you know,

[00:23:51] Jazmyn

coming from circumstances where statistically it wouldn’t look very likely that I

[00:23:56] Jazmyn

would be able to end up where I am. You know,

[00:23:59] Jazmyn

I was the kid going to school in dirty clothes and you know,

[00:24:03] Jazmyn

no lunch and all of that kind of interesting space to

[00:24:07] Jazmyn

be in. But, you know, I’m,  I’m

[00:24:09] Jazmyn

a mother now myself and I’m up every morning in my beautiful clean home. Packing my

[00:24:14] Jazmyn

son’s school lunch and getting to live my dream. So it’s all very possible. But it

[00:24:20] Jazmyn

doesn’t come without all the hard work to you know,

[00:24:22] Jazmyn

make sure that you’re keeping yourself safe and accessing help when you need it. So yeah.

[00:24:28] Geoff

Well,  thank you. You’re an inspiration because there are many people who do it tough. And

[00:24:34] Geoff

we could find excuses of why it’s too hard and woe is me and I’m not saying

[00:24:42] Geoff

we should not have the right to feel that way. But you’re the inspiration saying,

[00:24:47] Geoff

you know what? I can overcome it, whether you need to look for help,

[00:24:54] Geoff

whether you need to seek that mentorship, some guidance,

[00:24:58] Geoff

someone to talk to. But you the inspiration to know that it can be done that people

[00:25:04] Geoff

can overcome and make something very special of themselves because we’re all special. But we can overcome to achieve extraordinary.

[00:25:16] Geoff

And extraordinary to every single person is different. It can be whatever you want it to be,

[00:25:24] Geoff

But we can do it. And you’ve shown that and you show that every day. So more power

[00:25:30] Geoff

to you.

[00:25:32] Geoff

I really feel that you’re such a role model,  which again is what our awards are all about,

[00:25:37] Geoff

showing outstanding young people who are role models,  showcasing stories that inspire us. So I think you’re amazing.

[00:25:48] Geoff

I cannot tell you enough how inspiring you are. So I hope all of our listeners,

[00:25:53] Geoff

if there’s someone that you can think of that may need

[00:25:58] Geoff

a little bit of encouragement to share the podcast with them because to hear the

[00:26:03] Geoff

story of Jasmine will no doubt inspire. So what

[00:26:10] Geoff

advice can you offer Jasmine to people who are continually faced with barriers?  You know, Sam,

[00:26:16] Geoff

it’s just too hard. And

[00:26:20] Jazmyn

I think that over time and all the different problem solving that I’ve had to do in various capacities,

[00:26:26] Jazmyn

whether that’s personal life or business. The one thing that really is consistent

[00:26:31] Jazmyn

is Gratitude. And, you know, framing everything with a sense of Gratitude,  even on your hardest days,

[00:26:38] Jazmyn

is generally the thing that is going to keep you ticking along well enough to get

[00:26:43] Jazmyn

to the next moment where things kind of clear up, you know, it’s not,

[00:26:46] Jazmyn

we’re not always problem solving against things that we have control over whether

[00:26:51] Jazmyn

that is personal or business. So I think you just have to really do the work to

[00:26:56] Jazmyn

keep yourself in a positive space as much as possible. Because otherwise,

[00:27:02] Jazmyn

you know, and living inside of any sort of negative energy for too long, you’re,

[00:27:07] Jazmyn

you’re kind of always robbing yourself of the energy to move on to the next thing

[00:27:12] Jazmyn

with the right Headspace.

[00:27:13] Jazmyn

So Gratitude is my little superpower that I try to fall back on,

[00:27:17] Jazmyn

and I think it really is something that we don’t practice frequently enough these

[00:27:23] Jazmyn

days. I know that for so long religion has been the source where many of us would

[00:27:28] Jazmyn

have been taught how to practice that Gratitude. And obviously we’re sort of moving

[00:27:33] Jazmyn

into this time period where religion’s falling off. And I just don’t know that we

[00:27:38] Jazmyn

have something filling that gap yet for sharing that kind of ability to reflect and

[00:27:44] Jazmyn

be grateful. So yeah, I would just,  I would strongly encourage that to become part of people’s practice.

[00:27:50] Geoff

Yeah. One hundred percent, and I think religion is part of the has a theme of Gratitude too,  doesn’t it?

[00:27:57] Geoff

But I think you nailed it. Gratitude and the gems are flowing thick and fast. But I

[00:28:03] Geoff

agree, Gratitude is so important,  gives us positivity. It reminds us of the good things that we have,

[00:28:10] Geoff

the things that we’ve achieved, and often the good things we have become as

[00:28:14] Geoff

a result of our hard work. My dad always used to say it’s funny how the harder the

[00:28:20] Geoff

lucky you are, the harder you work,  the lucky you are. People say are so lucky. Yeah. Gee, you know,

[00:28:26] Geoff

and that’s always resonated for me. We make our own luck.

[00:28:30] Jazmyn

Yes,  absolutely. Yeah. And I think I was reflecting on this the other day actually,  you know,

[00:28:36] Jazmyn

the phrase comparison is the thief of joy. And I think that there’s another way to

[00:28:41] Jazmyn

look at that. I know that we can tend to skew in the way of comparing ourselves to

[00:28:46] Jazmyn

people that are on paper doing better than us. But I think also comparing our

[00:28:53] Jazmyn

situations against what we’re not experiencing is something that maybe we don’t

[00:28:58] Jazmyn

spend enough time doing.

[00:29:00] Jazmyn

I think that, you know,

[00:29:01] Jazmyn

we’re always looking forward to that big, beautiful, shiny car and that,  that huge house and, you know,

[00:29:08] Jazmyn

people were showing up to give us massages that kind of thing that we’re comparing

[00:29:11] Jazmyn

our situation to. But sometimes I think like my practice of Gratitude also involves

[00:29:17] Jazmyn

looking back at where I’ve come from and comparing to that circumstance. And you know,

[00:29:22] Jazmyn

other people’s lives that I witnessed during those times. Also where I’m able to

[00:29:27] Jazmyn

just be grateful for the fact that, you know, I’m practicing, you know,

[00:29:32] Jazmyn

a good routine at bedtime with my son. You know,

[00:29:35] Jazmyn

things like that where you really have to be grateful for those small things.

[00:29:39] Jazmyn

Whatever you’re achieving that is keeping you and the people you love safe and

[00:29:43] Jazmyn

healthy. Compare that to you know, as not being a given,

[00:29:47] Jazmyn

I suppose. And it keeps you in good stead. Yeah.

[00:29:52] Geoff

Again,  words of wisdom. So in another direction and beyond your extraordinary personal and business achievements,

[00:30:03] Geoff

you’ve also you touched on early release your own Music,

[00:30:08] Geoff

which is pretty exciting stuff. Can you enlighten us to expand it?  Been a bit more on that.

[00:30:13] Jazmyn

Yeah, so I’d been working in the Music industry for

[00:30:17] Jazmyn

a few years and being the chronic songwriter that I have been for many,  many decades before many,

[00:30:24] Jazmyn

many decades. I was twenty five when I released my first song,

[00:30:26] Jazmyn

But yeah. Being surrounded by musicians, I just suddenly felt like I had

[00:30:32] Jazmyn

a means to access that world of actually recording and putting Music out into the

[00:30:37] Jazmyn

world. So I decided to gather up

[00:30:40] Jazmyn

a few of the songs that I had written and recorded them last year with some

[00:30:44] Jazmyn

beautiful clients that I’ve been working with Long term melody and Michael MacArthur, they’ve won lots of fancy awards,

[00:30:51] Jazmyn

all the arias and golden guitars and things so they helped me to put an EP together,

[00:30:56] Jazmyn

which we released this year. We were very lucky to get number four on the Apple

[00:31:01] Jazmyn

Music charts on release date and yeah, it’s been a beautiful success. But yeah,

[00:31:07] Jazmyn

Music is my I suppose, well, I feel like my entire career is my hobby, really,

[00:31:14] Jazmyn

But Music is like my extra little cherry on top of all of that. It’s definitely my indulgence zone.

[00:31:21] Geoff


[00:31:21] Geoff

So what’s the app code?

[00:31:24] Jazmyn

The app is called garden and yeah,

[00:31:27] Jazmyn

I suppose if anybody would like to go and check it out just to note that the

[00:31:31] Jazmyn

spelling of my name is a bit strange with the Jay-Z and why N. But yes,

[00:31:35] Jazmyn

you can find it all over the place and there’s a couple of film clips on YouTube and. Yeah.

[00:31:41] Geoff

Jasmine with Jay-Z and God. Yes,  you know, as soon as we get a podcast,  everyone download garden. Well,

[00:31:52] Geoff

I think we’re all going to get on it and grab it. Sounds amazing. Can’t wait to

[00:31:58] Geoff

listen to it. So that went number four,  say day one.

[00:32:05] Jazmyn

On release. We got number four on Apple Music,  so that was very exciting,

[00:32:08] Geoff

very, very, very exciting. So what’s next,  in terms of recordings,

[00:32:15] Jazmyn

I have a whole nother album ready to go at the moment in terms of I’ve written the songs,

[00:32:21] Jazmyn

But I haven’t recorded them yet. I think I just, I’m trying to pace myself

[00:32:25] Jazmyn

a little bit and really put the work into doing the tour and getting out on the

[00:32:29] Jazmyn

road and connecting with a more of the community to actually take that experience and put it back into the

[00:32:35] Jazmyn

next recording process. So it’s all ticking along, But yeah,

[00:32:38] Jazmyn

we’re focusing on live shows next, and then we’ll get into recording,  hopefully at the end of next year.

[00:32:45] Geoff

One step at a time.  One game at a time as they say. Well, going back if we may,

[00:32:55] Geoff

to the awards gala presentation dinner roll on the park earlier this year. Must

[00:33:02] Geoff

have been a wonderful acknowledgement of your artistic contribution and a real thrill to have won the small business award.

[00:33:12] Jazmyn

Yeah, it was, you know,  I wasn’t expecting it at all the wind because, you know,

[00:33:18] Jazmyn

I investigated who I was up against and just felt so inspired by all these other

[00:33:24] Jazmyn

young people doing such incredible work. And I really thought of, you know,

[00:33:29] Jazmyn

all of these people are so deserving. And so I didn’t, I didn’t attend the awards,

[00:33:33] Jazmyn

But the thought that I had any shot, honestly. So I was very,

[00:33:37] Jazmyn

very surprised the moment that my name was called out,

[00:33:39] Jazmyn

But I was really excited to be able to take my team along with me to celebrate that

[00:33:44] Jazmyn

night because it’s also a reflection on them and celebrating all their hard work that they put into the

[00:33:49] Jazmyn

business, But it was such a beautiful night. We met so many incredible other young people who understand the

[00:33:57] Jazmyn

struggle and understand the commitments and the sacrifices and to be in

[00:34:01] Jazmyn

a space with so many like minded hardworking people was really So inspiring to me.

[00:34:07] Geoff

Yeah, it is always inspiring,

[00:34:09] Geoff

I always get goose bumps every event to hear the stories to meet people and to understand

[00:34:17] Geoff

a little more and you can see it in people their journey. You can really get

[00:34:22] Geoff

a sense and few of the of the person I think not always,

[00:34:26] Geoff

But most often. What are your, my memories of the event?  I mean,

[00:34:30] Geoff

you probably just covered that. But is there something that you’ve taken away from

[00:34:37] Geoff

winning the award that holds precious to you?

[00:34:41] Jazmyn

Oh, I think the whole team involved in organizing the event has made it such

[00:34:46] Jazmyn

a special thing because there’s so many flow on effects from it. So it doesn’t just

[00:34:50] Jazmyn

end at the awards night. There’s been

[00:34:52] Jazmyn

a lot of support and networking potential that has come out of it. So I think all

[00:34:57] Jazmyn

of that like the event itself was beautiful and amazing. I would relive that night

[00:35:01] Jazmyn

again. But everything after has been just as beautiful and you know,

[00:35:06] Jazmyn

it’s been so nice to connect with so many of the young people,

[00:35:09] Jazmyn

But also the people involved in organizing and facilitating the event. So it’s

[00:35:14] Jazmyn

definitely just expanded my community. That little bit more and yeah, I’m just,

[00:35:18] Jazmyn

I’m really grateful for everything that we’re now experiencing as a result of that.

[00:35:24] Geoff

And I’m sure everybody that everybody that’s connected with you

[00:35:27] Geoff

is grateful to hear your story and to have met you as well.

[00:35:32] Geoff

And nominations are

[00:35:34] Geoff

currently open for this year’s round of young achievers across the country in

[00:35:40] Geoff

fact. And if any of our listeners would like to nominate someone for an award,

[00:35:45] Geoff

you’ve just heard how important it’s been to Jasmine. So if you’d like to know more

[00:35:51] Geoff

get onto awards Australia dot Com,

[00:35:54] Geoff

give me an email or send me an email at Jeff head awards Australia dot Com geo

[00:36:02] Geoff

and awards Australia dot Com. As I say otherwise,

[00:36:05] Geoff

head onto the young achiever award page to see what categories are open

[00:36:12] Geoff

and who you might nominate. We all are a bit short of time,  But we do have

[00:36:19] Geoff

a form online that you can nominate someone in just two minutes. Keep your details,

[00:36:24] Geoff

their details will contact them and it can be that easy will then contact the young

[00:36:29] Geoff

person that’s mentioned and talk to them about the nomination to nominate someone really is

[00:36:38] Geoff

a privilege to nominate someone like Jasmine is so special. It would give you

[00:36:45] Geoff

a thrill and B give you joy for the rest of your life to know that someone has

[00:36:50] Geoff

benefited from your actions. So Jasmine,  what are some of your future plans and where to next for you?

[00:37:00] Jazmyn

I think just developing and expanding everything that we’re currently working on or

[00:37:04] Jazmyn

the management side of the business is growing slowly But surely. And we’re trying

[00:37:09] Jazmyn

to take our time to make sure that that’s really built with strong foundations. So

[00:37:14] Jazmyn

expanding that and then also the International travel that we mentioned before and

[00:37:20] Jazmyn

focusing on my Music a lot more as well. But you know, I’m always

[00:37:24] Jazmyn

a big believer as well in keeping options open and I’m really excited just to not

[00:37:30] Jazmyn

have any incredibly concrete plans and just always be open to what’s coming and

[00:37:36] Jazmyn

what pops up along the way.

[00:37:37] Jazmyn

I think that’s where all the most beautiful stories

[00:37:40] Jazmyn

have come from in my life where I’ve just kept an open mind. So yeah,

[00:37:44] Jazmyn

just excited to see what the future brings.

[00:37:47] Geoff

I think that’s probably good advice.

[00:37:49] Geoff

Have plans But don’t make them too concrete so that when they don’t go exactly according to plan,

[00:37:55] Geoff

we’re not distraught or destroyed by the cracks that form. So

[00:38:02] Geoff

yeah, I think that’s really, really good advice. And of course,  you’ve got all your tours coming up,

[00:38:09] Geoff

which is fantastic. Look forward to getting my VIP spot at

[00:38:16] Geoff

the absolute current theme park. And more, I mean, I make out, I’m like,

[00:38:22] Geoff

sing along because if I did actually, I might scare a few people off.

[00:38:27] Jazmyn

Oh no. We’d have to charge double the ticket price if you were out there.

[00:38:30] Jazmyn


[00:38:33] Geoff

Do you have any other words of advice or words of wisdom?

[00:38:36] Geoff

? Now you have embodied quite a few and don’t worry listeners,

[00:38:40] Geoff

there’s no charge for those pills. They’re all free of charge, courtesy of Jasmine,

[00:38:47] Geoff

anything else that you want to impart for our listeners who might be doing it tough

[00:38:52] Geoff

or wanting to start their own business or just needing a bit of encouragement.

[00:38:56] Jazmyn

Yeah, absolutely. I think three things.  Staying humble,

[00:39:02] Jazmyn

not feeling entitled to any success and being patient. I think those three things

[00:39:08] Jazmyn

are super important. It doesn’t mean that you have to detract from your own power

[00:39:14] Jazmyn

and how much you believe in yourself and how much you want something. But it is

[00:39:18] Jazmyn

about just respecting the fact that there’s so many people on this little planet of ours,

[00:39:23] Jazmyn

all trying to gun for their dreams and yours might not happen in the same way that

[00:39:27] Jazmyn

you see it happening for somebody else. I think remaining humble and being patient

[00:39:31] Jazmyn

about that is an incredibly powerful thing because what happens is that So many of

[00:39:35] Jazmyn

us get caught up in this timeline that we’ve sort of set up for ourselves in our

[00:39:41] Jazmyn

minds. And it’s got absolutely nothing to do with reality. At the end of the day,

[00:39:45] Jazmyn

I think just keep your blinkers on work really hard and focus on what you’re doing

[00:39:49] Jazmyn

and just trust that if you are really approaching everything with integrity,  that it will happen for you. There’s basically,

[00:39:55] Jazmyn

there’s no way that it can’t just keep your head down and work hard and trust,  trust the process

[00:40:02] Geoff

and how much do you charge for,  for your services to help people out myself?

[00:40:07] Geoff

I’m speaking, speaking for a friend. Well, you know,

[00:40:12] Geoff

anybody who needs just to finish the day or start the day in

[00:40:17] Geoff

a better space. What’s your Fe to inspire us

[00:40:22] Jazmyn

into the invoice after this

[00:40:25] Geoff

truly amazing is just extraordinary. Is there anything else that and those three are pretty amazing?

[00:40:34] Geoff

Is there anything else that you would like to add before we close off today?

[00:40:39] Jazmyn

Well,  you know all these beautiful listeners that have stuck with us for the whole podcast.

[00:40:43] Jazmyn

They all can go and stream the Music that would be fabulous. Yes sir. Nominating

[00:40:50] Jazmyn

for the awards. I definitely want to mirror what you just mentioned about that it’s

[00:40:54] Jazmyn

a great opportunity so they should definitely pop over immediately after this and go and do that.

[00:40:59] Geoff

Beautiful well said.  So where can our listeners connect and find out more about Jasmine producers?

[00:41:09] Geoff

Of course your other business. What is it? Calamity.

[00:41:13] Jazmyn

Calamity, Jane?  Music management.

[00:41:15] Geoff

Calamity, Jane and Calamity. Jane. That’s a, that’s a person from a movie. It’s not so, But yes,

[00:41:22] Geoff

sorry. So Calamity. Jane Music.

[00:41:26] Jazmyn

She’s our little renegade country,  wild child mascot. Yes.

[00:41:31] Jazmyn

But yeah,

[00:41:32] Jazmyn

definitely our most active space is Instagram. So Jasmine produces the spelling is a little funny,

[00:41:38] Jazmyn

But I’m sure it will be linked somewhere with this podcast. Yes. And then yeah,

[00:41:43] Jazmyn

from there you can find links to everything else. So that’s the good spot to land.

[00:41:48] Geoff

All right,  Jasmine producers on Instagram is the best place. And that AP garden with Jasmine,

[00:41:59] Geoff

spelt slightly differently. Unique actually,  Jay Z.

[00:42:07] Jazmyn


[00:42:08] Geoff

Y and yes. Got it. All right, Jasmine, it’s been

[00:42:14] Geoff

a real pleasure to chat with you today. In fact it’s been an inspirational and

[00:42:19] Geoff

a highlight for me. I was saying earlier that I’m just coming off covid five. I

[00:42:25] Geoff

feel so much better already. I may go out for

[00:42:30] Geoff

a jog after this.

[00:42:31] Geoff

Probably the not part is probably more accurate,

[00:42:34] Geoff

But now it has been amazing. I’ve loved my time with you today and I’m sure all of

[00:42:41] Geoff

our listeners have also enjoyed hearing your story. Thank you so much for sharing some of your journey with us.

[00:42:50] Jazmyn

Thank you for the opportunity. Super appreciate that.

[00:42:54] Geoff

Absolutely our pleasure. And until next week please be kind and remember, you’re not alone because together we make

[00:43:01] Geoff

a difference.

[00:43:07] Geoff

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